{"id":207,"date":"2005-04-11T08:05:46","date_gmt":"2005-04-11T16:05:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com\/wordpress\/archives\/2005\/04\/man_dates.html"},"modified":"2005-04-11T08:05:46","modified_gmt":"2005-04-11T16:05:46","slug":"man_dates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/04\/man_dates.html","title":{"rendered":"Man Dates"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jennifer 8. Lee investigates the notion that men going out to dinner with each other are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2005\/04\/10\/fashion\/10date.html?ex=1270785600&#038;en=37bef79604f97228&#038;ei=5090&#038;partner=rssuserland\">secretly homosexual<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>The delicate posturing began with the phone call.<\/p>\n<p>The proposal was that two buddies back in New York City for a holiday break in December meet to visit the Museum of Modern Art after its major renovation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He explicitly said, &#8216;I know this is kind of weird, but we should probably go,'&#8221; said Matthew Speiser, 25, recalling his conversation with John Putman, 28, a former classmate from Williams College.<\/p>\n<p>The weirdness was apparent once they reached the museum, where they semi-avoided each other as they made their way through the galleries and eschewed any public displays of connoisseurship. &#8220;We definitely went out of our way to look at things separately,&#8221; recalled Mr. Speiser, who has had art-history classes in his time.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We shuffled. We probably both pretended to know less about the art than we did.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Eager to cut the tension following what they perceived to be a slightly unmanly excursion &#8211; two guys looking at art together &#8211; they headed directly to a bar. &#8220;We couldn&#8217;t stop talking about the fact that it was ridiculous we had spent the whole day together one on one,&#8221; said Mr. Speiser, who is straight, as is Mr. Putman. &#8220;We were purging ourselves of insecurity.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Anyone who finds a date with a potential romantic partner to be a minefield of unspoken rules should consider the man date, a rendezvous between two straight men that is even more socially perilous.<\/p>\n<p>. . .<\/p>\n<p>Although &#8220;man date&#8221; is a coinage invented for this article, appearing nowhere in the literature of male bonding (or of homosexual panic), the 30 to 40 straight men interviewed, from their 20&#8217;s to their 50&#8217;s, living in cities across the country, instantly recognized the peculiar ritual even if they had not consciously examined its dos and don&#8217;ts. Depending on the activity and on the two men involved, an undercurrent of homoeroticism that may be present determines what feels comfortable or not on a man date, as Mr. Speiser and Mr. Putman discovered in their squeamishness at the Modern.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Both Sex and the City and Seinfeld are long gone but it&#8217;s not too late to coin glib terms for New York City culturo-athropological phenomena:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Simply defined a man date is two heterosexual men socializing without the crutch of business or sports. It is two guys meeting for the kind of outing a straight man might reasonably arrange with a woman. Dining together across a table without the aid of a television is a man date; eating at a bar is not. Taking a walk in the park together is a man date; going for a jog is not. Attending the movie &#8220;Friday Night Lights&#8221; is a man date, but going to see the Jets play is definitely not.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Sideways,&#8221; the Oscar-winning film about two buddies touring the central California wine country on the eve of the wedding of one of them, is one long and boozy man date.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>She of course conveniently forgets that the technical term for two or more men being out &#8220;on the eve of one&#8217;s wedding&#8221; is &#8220;bachelor party.&#8221; Nothing to see here, move on: Gentlemen, rest assured, your manhood is intact.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jennifer 8. Lee investigates the notion that men going out to dinner with each other are secretly homosexual: The delicate posturing began with the phone call. The proposal was that two buddies back in New York City for a holiday break in December meet to visit the Museum of Modern Art after its major renovation. 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